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Alain Degny
#141 Posted : 08 June 2017 20:26:40

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Sorry to contradict you but in the French Navy (Ships of the line and frigates, 17th and 18th centuries) there is ONLY one way to store the launches. And for your information, I study the French naval archaeology for 50 years.

Do what you want but this is a huge error.

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#142 Posted : 08 June 2017 20:58:50

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The intent of a partwork ship model kit is to give a novice a chance to build a ship that looks cool to the general populace, not to create a historically accurate model fit for a naval museum. More so when it's in regards to a ship that is currently landfill in a parking lot and where not even the Paris model can decide if it is actually a model of the 1669 SR or her successor or maybe partwise both.

I have enough to do with learning to plank and rig a ship, I'm not going to turn things around on their head to enhance historical accuracy to a degree that no one that will see the ship in real life or most online places can even appreciate.

This is how projects never get finished. If one wanted to enhance historical accuracy, there are so so many other places on this kit to work on. You start with the boats, then you notice you need to redo the second planking because its not following the lines of wales as it should. Then you decide to rebuild the cannons in their entirety because the carriages aren't wood (and one of the cannons delivered is a physical impossiblity in itself). And the list goes on and on and then you're dead with a husk of a ship.

So I'd rather finish this before the lung cancer invariably gets me and earn a "That's a pretty cool ship, dude" from my buds and that's fine for me ;-)
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#143 Posted : 08 June 2017 22:09:14

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Confused I must admit I am with you Greyhawk it all depends on what configuration you are looking at whether it's the early one or the later one just before she was destroyed as the ships boats were reconfigured towards her later life

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#144 Posted : 10 June 2017 03:04:50

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Alain Degny wrote:
Sorry to contradict you but in the French Navy (Ships of the line and frigates, 17th and 18th centuries) there is ONLY one way to store the launches. And for your information, I study the French naval archaeology for 50 years.

Do what you want but this is a huge error.



I would like to say, It is down to each individual modeller as to how they want to build their ships. If they want it accurate down to the last nail then thats up to them.
To come on and spout on about incorrectness etc isnt warranted. Please refrain from doing so as it only causes aggravation in the forum.
We welcome constructive advice but not to the point that where you rip apart their build.

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#145 Posted : 10 June 2017 09:07:20

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Think I agree with everybody. Its down tobthe indevidual to decide how much improving they chose to do or not do, we all have different levels of skill and time and indeed money to be honest a really well done stright build will look awsum
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#146 Posted : 25 June 2017 19:19:44

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One year and three days ago I decided to order and build the Soleil Royal.

Today I finally laid down the last strake of the second planking.



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#147 Posted : 25 June 2017 20:40:11

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Looking great Cool

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#148 Posted : 25 June 2017 21:22:49

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BigGrin A year well spent Greyhawk she is looking brilliant Drool can't wait to see the bling going on Cool

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#149 Posted : 25 June 2017 22:28:15

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Nice work Grey, Looks great now the second layer is finished.

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#150 Posted : 26 June 2017 05:28:02
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Looking great. WTG

Cool Cool Cool Cool

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#151 Posted : 26 June 2017 09:12:58

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Looks great, nice job.

Mark
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#152 Posted : 26 June 2017 09:36:07

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Hull all planked and looking great, you've done a lovely job planking her..... well done....Cool Cool ..

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#153 Posted : 26 June 2017 12:04:51

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Great job on your planking. Ian Cool BigGrin
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#154 Posted : 03 July 2017 09:03:47

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82: Sanded the entire hull, added the keel and stem, cut down and sanded the stand to form a straight and stable fit with the hull.

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#155 Posted : 03 July 2017 14:10:32

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Thats looking superb Greyhawk.

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#156 Posted : 03 July 2017 17:03:33

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That's a pretty cool looking ship Greyhawk. It looks awesome just as it is and as you say the general populace that see it aren't going t have a clue about any inaccuracies. They'll just be blown away by the level of detail and the complex rigging when finished Blink
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#157 Posted : 05 July 2017 14:38:27

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Hi Greyhawk,

I wounder how many modelers spirit has been crushed by the 'Rivet counters'?

Excellent job on the planking!!! Well done.

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#158 Posted : 05 July 2017 15:01:41

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Garth wrote:
Hi Greyhawk,

I wounder how many modelers spirit has been crushed by the 'Rivet counters'?

Excellent job on the planking!!! Well done.

Kind regards,
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Seconded!Love Keep up the good work. Cool
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#159 Posted : 05 July 2017 23:52:01

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Nice work Grey. Done grand job upto now.


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#160 Posted : 06 July 2017 06:26:17

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The hull is looking gorgeous!
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