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Afternoon all, I know that this subject has been discussed many times before but I am considering dipping my toe into the world of spray gun painting. However I would appreciate any comments, good, bad or indifferent, regarding my proposed route of action. As I mentioned I have no knowledge of these things so........ I looked on Amazon and they are advertising a kit by a company called Gocheer for around £80 and it consists of a small electric compressor (15-40psi) a dual action gun, two different needles, some cleaning brushes etc. I realise that by expert standards, this would probably be discounted immediately but given my qualifications with such things (ZERO), what are your thoughts please? Chris
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I use a H&S Ultra Airbrush and Vallejo paints, the compressor I use is a piston type compressor which has a small tank. TC-80TK Mini Compressor - TC-80T You’ll get a lot of different recommendations but it’s down to how much you want to spend, I’ve used expensive £££ brushes and cheep ones, but at the end of the day it’s what you feel comfortable using. Then it’s do you want a single action or duel action trigger, again I’ve used both and I like a double action. There’s so many question to this topic and even more answers And don’t forget your ventilation unit. My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
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Also a tank compressor is better then an electric continues one, a tank one will give you better control on the air supply demand. My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
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Hi Ian, Many thanks for all the tips which are just what I am looking for . Due to financial constraints, I have to be aware of not spending too much cash on an item which, although I would like to have a spray kit, I have to also reconcile that against how much I will use it.
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Hi Chris, I stood back from opening the convo, purely because I am a very light user of an airbrush. That said, I have to totally agree with everything Mustang has said above. The small airbrush kits may be fine when you are only doing people`s finger nails, but when working on larger things like models you must have a constant air flow and that`s where the air tank comes into its own. It gives you a regular pressure and because the pump isn`t running permanently it saves on the wear and tear of said pump. Second thing is practice, practice and practice again. It may take some time but by small adjustments of the equipment at a time you will get different results and be able to judge what suits you best. Last thing is cleanliness of your equipment. It can take longer to clean it all after use than the time you`ve been using it, but for sure DO NOT use an ultrasonic cleaner. They get rid of every speck of paint, but also destroy the seals in the airbrush. Don`t ask how I know. Remember you will want to keep upgrading if bitten by the bug, so as Mustang said "get the best you can afford" even if it means waiting a little while to get that extra few quid. Try it and enjoy it. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) Admin COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Also have a look via YouTube there’s loads of videos on this subject, also theres some good books out there. But at the end of the day like delboy says it’s practice practice practice. My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
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Nothing much more to say that hasn’t already been said, but I would reiterate what Derek has said with regards to cleaning. Cleaning your equipment thoroughly afterwards will give you trouble free spraying and will last you years. One other point on cleaning, alway take the needle out from the front, as paint will clog the seals and it is harder to clean if pulling it out from the back. It will also mean a complete strip down after a while. Good luck with your purchase. Mark
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Thanks to all of you for your tips tricks and other information. I shall certainly look at the instructional videos and maybe even open a book and read it!! Looks like I have a fair amount of thinking, and saving, if I am to continue with this idea. Thanks again. Chris
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Mustang wrote: TC-80TK Mini Compressor - TC-80T
Hi Mustang, I did a bit of shopping around and I ended up back at the guy you PM'd me about. Just bought a kit with the identical compressor to yours. I think I'm in for a LOT of practising. Every video I have watched seems to stress a different aspect. But hey!, this is a hobby and I'll play around 'til Im satisfied to try it (on an old model first)
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WTG Chris, Look forward to seeing your progress. Cheapest thing to practice your basic skills for spray pattern/layer thickness is plastic spoons or the like. When you go to some of the shows where people demonstrate equipment and paints, that`s what they use. Super cheap and a throw away item. Try what ever seems best to your comfort zone and try different settings to see the different results you can get. Enjoy Regards delboy271155 (Derek) Admin COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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delboy271155 wrote:WTG Chris, Look forward to seeing your progress. Cheapest thing to practice your basic skills for spray pattern/layer thickness is plastic spoons or the like. When you go to some of the shows where people demonstrate equipment and paints, that`s what they use. Super cheap and a throw away item. Try what ever seems best to your comfort zone and try different settings to see the different results you can get. Enjoy Regards delboy271155 (Derek) Admin Hi Derek, thanks for the tip with the spoons. For some reason, I don't think I'll be using our "Sunday Best" set though. You mention exhibitions and I'd love to get top some of these. At the moment all the ones I've seen seem to be too far from my home. Do you know if there a website that lists these exhibitions in advance? Chris
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goddo wrote:delboy271155 wrote:WTG Chris, Look forward to seeing your progress. Cheapest thing to practice your basic skills for spray pattern/layer thickness is plastic spoons or the like. When you go to some of the shows where people demonstrate equipment and paints, that`s what they use. Super cheap and a throw away item. Try what ever seems best to your comfort zone and try different settings to see the different results you can get. Enjoy Regards delboy271155 (Derek) Admin Hi Derek, thanks for the tip with the spoons. For some reason, I don't think I'll be using our "Sunday Best" set though. You mention exhibitions and I'd love to get top some of these. At the moment all the ones I've seen seem to be too far from my home. Do you know if there a website that lists these exhibitions in advance? Chris Hi Chris, Please don`t use the Sunday Best, I couldn`t cover the insurance costs. As for the exhibitions / model shows I think this is your best bet, but we are getting to the end of the season for this year so look towards 2024. International Plastic Modellers Society on this link: https://ipmsuk.org/events/
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I've used the as186 (on amazon atm for 97 quid) for yrs with no problems, a great setup. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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Thank you for the input Derek Mark and Ken. The more the better in my case. I think I watched circa six you tube videos yesterday and things are getting a little clearer. As I mentioned, I have now bought a kit on recommendation and once it arrives I will start practising. I have already warned our little dog to keep moving around, otherwise he might end up slightly mottled.
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