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So a bit more, I jumped a little as the next part was to add four beams at the rear to support the lower hatch but looking at the drawings and booklet they didn't seam to fit where I would have expected them too. So these are the hatches ready to go in.  So now I have them I can workout the beams... The instructions have you place the beams at these measurements, which might be ok for some.  But when you place the hatch in the centre of the structure the ends of the hatch sit right on the sides of the beams.  Fine the hatch is supported but what about the decking, so I moved them 2mm sideways, which will allow me some support for the decking.   As I've moved them, I also decided to position the two other beams in the centre of the space that way left, this will give enough support for the decking.  My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
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Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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Before these are meant to be added your meant to start the plank of the deck, I left this as I need to add some more supports for the deck planks as there is no centre support except for the three supports that make up the framework.  So after some searching I found out the deck planks would possible have been either 6' 9' or 12' long so knowing this I can work out my planks. I'll be going with the 12' long version which if my maths is correct will be 160mm long. My maths isn't great so 12' is 144", divided 144" by 23 = 6.3" (23 as the scale is 1/23) or 160mm which works out about right to the frames. My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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The parts in these older kits are really not as accurate in their fit as you'd hope to find but that is half the fun, finding the faults and putting them right.... From what I'm seeing you're off to a great start and the build has the makings of being a beautiful and interesting display piece when done....  .. Look forward to seeing more of this one.... Regards Alan
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I agree Gandale making a model our own is part of the pleasure of the build.  My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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Started on the lower decks, I added some extra piece just of support which I've marked with a red dot.   I've temeraraly tacked a piece along one of the side to act as a marker for the ends of the planks.  My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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The planking I decided to do it my way and not the instructions way, the instructions tell you to make a slight cut in the top of the wood piece to simulate the joints of the planks on the runs, instead I've cut my planks to the length I need as long as there not long then 160mm.  I'am following the instructions by adding a piece of darker wood to simulate the caulking effect, but I'm also adding a small piece between the end joints.  I have 20 piece of this wood to use as decks but some are darker then the others so as you see I'm mixing them up, once sealed it should hopefully look nice. But if not theres so much going on inside I don't think your'll see a lot of the decks  My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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You're making a grand job of it so far. The deck planking looks great.
Happy building
David
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Very nice indeed....  .. Cutting the planks to length gives a much more authentic look and is the way I prefer to do decking..... Keep the pics coming.... Regards Alan
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Forgot this one, just showing me adding the end pieces.  My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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Really moved along with this one looking good Regards Phil COMING SOON =1/72 Italeri diorama`s Battle for the Reichstag and Stalingrad battle at the tractor factory 1/16 Trumpeter King Tiger with loads of extras ON THE GO= refurbishment of 1/25 Tamiya tiger 1 , amt Star trek kits and space 1999 models
So Much to Build,But What a Hobby!
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Thanks for looking in peeps  So the lower deck is 99% done, can't finish it just yet as we need to removed the three rear supports later when we add the support columns. I done it so the hatch can be removed at the moment until I've sanded the deck down.   My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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While doing the lower deck I've made up the two canon's, wanted these so I can check the hight of the opening in the hull side. Know I've also made a little change to these as I've made them more towards photos I found of HMS Surprise which I'm sure you all know from the film The Far Side of the World. So in the photos the Left one is how I see them and the Right is how the instructions tell you to build them.  Slight difference the lower hight reach.  And the same with the max hight reach  Slightly different middle runners, and I've add a piece at the rear which I did cut it half afterwards.   Cut down the hight wedge, it looked way to big.   My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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The rear of the gun barrels are as they came.  But I drilled and added a small piece for the rope guild.  My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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Dry fit to see how they both looked.   My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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Next I've started on the outer hull.   My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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??? I'm just wondering if I should add some black paper between the rest of the hull beams to act as the caulking infill. My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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Hi Mustang, I love the way you’ve made your planking look with the different shades it looks fantastic, And those brass cannons look superb. Are you planning to stain the planks? I think they would look fantastic with a coat of mid sheen clear varnish to really bring out the natural look of the wood. I hope you don’t mind a suggestion. Superb work my friend!
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Hi Silent Runner, Yes I'll be sealing them soon with what I always use on the boat builds as the stuff really brings out the wood. My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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Wow this is really progressing well. Excellent stuff. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Thanks Derek. So a bit more has been done to the outer hull. I've been working out my gun holes but not as the instructions have it. I've added some frame work to be the inner supports, I made the frame work to be square in shape as that what port holes normally are mine have ended up at 29x29mm on the inside edge which is 1mm smaller, but if you built the gun holes as per instructed you would end up with a hole 30x32 which isn't correct.  The hight wasn't quite right so I sanded down the bottom edge slightly, and I'll also have to sand the top edges when I get there. I'll also make my own gun doors as the ones given are to thick and now the wrong shape.  So this is how I see they should be, the cross beams are also something I added.  My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-spac...=339517&#post339517 -
Current Build - 0-6-0 https://forum.deagostini...=351803&#post351803 Enterprise D - https://forum.deagostini...=posts&t=35768&
Built:-. HMS Bounty, RMS Titanic, MP4-23, Flying Scotsman, Aston Martin DB5, Honda CB750, Mustang, R2-D2, Jaguar, DeLorean, Testarossa, Stage Coach plus many plastic kits.
Dry dock no room to display:-. Bismarck, U96.
To build:-. HMS Hood. HMS Victory. Cutty Sark. SoS, Lancaster bomber. DR1 Triplane. JU-87. Plus many many plastic kits.
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