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Gandale
#41 Posted : 27 September 2012 21:23:01

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gandale,you have Identified the prob.now fix itHuh yes we were lucky,reduce the rib so it is the same as (b)prob solved,when I said lucky it meant that if the part rib was smaller then we would have added by filling in,I know some you will say send it back,and it should not have been like that in the first place,but we are all human,machines don't make mistakes,only the humans who operate them.this is not a problem,I have checked for alignment all is ok.this is what the forum is for,solving problems and fixing them.good luck.what i did was to file off the top edge of the joint on 13a. and when I fitted 13b. I pushed it into the top of the joint as my flange on 13 b was was slightly too small for the joint,and pushed a piece of scrap into the joint.



Karl, thanks for the update on your fix... have double checked mine and found my 13b fits perfectly... the first image I posted shows everything aligned with 13a being the back piece... filing the lower flange on 13a for my build I believe will correct the fault.... Thanks again, you are a star....Cool
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#42 Posted : 27 September 2012 23:05:25

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Would also advise builders to check the distance between each deck especially on parts 13a and 13b in relation to other ribs... i have a slight difference between the first and second deck, about half a mm.... Seriously thinking of just getting a replacement from the newsagents but am concerned I will pick up another faulty part...
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#43 Posted : 27 September 2012 23:44:32

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Decided to press ahead with my anchor... am pretty pleased with the texture and the grain of the wood showing though... Stock was stained with Walnut satin and dabbed with tissue to get the texture... may yet do something with the ring, will wait and see... here are the pics as promised....
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#44 Posted : 27 September 2012 23:55:08

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def different,the ring needs to be a bit larger I think?also the ring has binding it's called puddening.if you want a scale like anchor.Cool
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#45 Posted : 28 September 2012 00:07:45

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karl1113 wrote:
def different,the ring needs to be a bit larger I think?also the ring has binding it's called puddening.if you want a scale like anchor.Cool



Thanks Karl, thought I had aged it quite well but hey, that's why I am here, to try and learn especially from mistakes.... will have a look at puddening and see how it is done.... appreciate the comments ......
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#46 Posted : 28 September 2012 13:02:14

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Hi,

Son of Bulwark does a great tutorial on how he build the anchors for his victory - page 1 post 17

http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=1060

Hope this helps

M

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#47 Posted : 28 September 2012 20:44:06

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Contacted Customer Services today in relation to the faulty part no 13... Gave it some thought and decided as this is my very first build where no doubt I will make a lot of mistakes, I would at least refrain from adding to them wherever possible.... Have to say CS were very good, took my details and without quibble said they would send me a replacement issue. Shame it will take up to 28 days to arrive so will not be gluing any more ribs onto the keep until it gets here.... will dry fit only....
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Hi GD, I am only storing the ribs flat in my tile sandwich untill I have all the ribs and all the keel, then I will assemble all the parts on my dry dock,so 28 days will cover the time for all these parts to come togetherBigGrin Regards Mike
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#49 Posted : 28 September 2012 20:59:15

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MWG wrote:
Hi GD, I am only storing the ribs flat in my tile sandwich untill I have all the ribs and all the keel, then I will assemble all the parts on my dry dock,so 28 days will cover the time for all these parts to come togetherBigGrin Regards Mike


Thanks Mike... I may be enthusiatic about the build I have taken on but at the same time I am in no rush to see it completed....as they say, you learn by your mistakes and I am learning from mine with the help of experienced modellers like yourself... thanks again...
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#50 Posted : 29 September 2012 23:22:58

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Yesterday and today I cleaned all the ash off of the bow formers part 12, glued and fitted ensuring everything was square.... carried on with the balsa infills on the bow section and left to dry. Then using a file and sanding block started shaping the balsa infills, only have to fill indentations with wood filler and finally sand smooth... That maybe a task for tomorrow.....

Just for the record, ribs 13 and 15 have been dry fitted only, will not be gluing in place until new rib 13 arrives....

Here she is so far......
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#51 Posted : 02 October 2012 19:53:05

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Have decided to wait a while before I start fairing the hull. It looks a little daunting and having never done it before i would prefer to wait until I have all the balsa infills in place as I think that would be a great help... Plus it gives me a bit more time to see how others are done and hopefully follow their guidance...
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#52 Posted : 05 October 2012 20:31:50

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Issue 5 arrived and all looks well.. carefully cut all the parts out of their framing and got work cleaning all the loose ash from the fittings using a fine file and emery board... Happy to say all the parts fit together this time...
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#53 Posted : 05 October 2012 20:36:54

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Tried a dry fit of the new keel piece and found it was slightly out of line... closer inspection of the new keel piece showed it was so slightly warped, resulting in a dip in water for a few minutes. While the keel piece was soaking I glued in place parts 16a and 16b to make up the rib... The wet keel and the rib were now placed into my makeshift press where it will stay for a while....
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She is looking really great...And good job done with the balsa on the bow...ThumpUp
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She is looking really great...And good job done with the balsa on the bow...ThumpUp


Thanks for the encouraging comments my friend.. am really enjoying the build.. Have also scrapped the anchor and started again.. a lot happier with how that is going and will post when finished....
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Hi GD, spot on with the balsa infillsBigGrin glad to see you are going to use the wood filler, better to use two thin coats sanding between both, than one thick coat of fillerBigGrin Regards Mike
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MWG wrote:
Hi GD, spot on with the balsa infillsBigGrin glad to see you are going to use the wood filler, better to use two thin coats sanding between both, than one thick coat of fillerBigGrin Regards Mike



Thanks Mike, my intention is to leave the wood filling and sanding until I get to the stage where I need to carry out the fairing... a task I fully intend to take my time with... appreciate your guidance...Cool
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Hi GD, spot on with the balsa infillsBigGrin glad to see you are going to use the wood filler, better to use two thin coats sanding between both, than one thick coat of fillerBigGrin Regards Mike



Thanks Mike, my intention is to leave the wood filling and sanding until I get to the stage where I need to carry out the fairing... a task I fully intend to take my time with... appreciate your guidance...Cool


Hi GD, you can tell me to mind my own business, but is easier to fair the bow rib while it is off the ship,when it has been fitted with Balsa infillsBigGrin Regards Mike
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MWG wrote:
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Hi GD, spot on with the balsa infillsBigGrin glad to see you are going to use the wood filler, better to use two thin coats sanding between both, than one thick coat of fillerBigGrin Regards Mike



Thanks Mike, my intention is to leave the wood filling and sanding until I get to the stage where I need to carry out the fairing... a task I fully intend to take my time with... appreciate your guidance...Cool


Hi GD, you can tell me to mind my own business, but is easier to fair the bow rib while it is off the ship,when it has been fitted with Balsa infillsBigGrin Regards Mike


Would never tell you to mind your own business Mike, you are very much one of my guides... don't think I would get through this build without the likes of you and the people on this forum... maybe the fairing just concerns me a bit.... will have a look and perhaps take courage into my hands....BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin Forgot to mention, my bow is now glued in place so to start the fairing now may mean having to remove from the jig.... another learning point for me so it may be best now for me to wait until hull is set and decks are in place before removing it and starting the planking..... must say though, this is so enjoyable and thanks for your input......
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Decided my earlier attempt at my anchor was not up to scratch and made a number of mistakes during its construction... Threw the stock away and created a new stock from scratch. Replaced the ring with a larger one made from brass wire wrapped round a 12mm drill bit... Applied the puddening to the ring using rigging thread and painted it black... finally added the white bands using normal sewing thread.... Intend purchasing 1mm brass rod, inserting it into predrilled holes in the stock to represent fixing pins... Feel this is a much better attempt....
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