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#41 Posted : 01 April 2013 10:04:17

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Crying Thanks Andy
Its just more time and luckily it was fully insured, not in a rush though as the Yamato needs to be finished 1st [getting close now]
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#42 Posted : 01 April 2013 10:04:43

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Oh NoLOL
The Eduard Catapult PE, comes complete with a coloured full launching crew and pilot. I am feeling a strong urge to buy more PECrying LOL

http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/53085.pdf
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#43 Posted : 01 April 2013 10:21:37

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Now that is interesting the catapult has the walkways,Cool they are not included in the MK1 detail pack
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#44 Posted : 01 April 2013 16:26:56

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So I have been studying the Eduard PDF's for their new PE Issues and it seems there's an lot more that I don't already have.
For example, for the 7 main Searchlights,
Trumpeter give us 6 Plastic parts 2 of them clear for some odd reason and a PE for the lens grating.
MK1 replace the Grating with a much finer one and add the side winding handle.
Eduard of course have the 2 MK1 pieces, but add another 13 PE details to each Searchlight, 4 Grab Handles, 4 Lifting Hitches, the Winding Handle at the rear, a Hatch, 2 pieces for the Pivot Attachment and what looks like some sort of Key.

My Wallet is already sensing what this might mean Crying Crying Blushing Bored

Plus I've just seen thisBlink Blink
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_...p;t=123012&start=120
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#45 Posted : 01 April 2013 21:06:31

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I have decided to start working on the smaller sub-assemblies. The Hull is too large to spray indoors,so that will have to wait for more clement weather.
I have started with the 7 Main 160cm Searchlights. As I said earlier the MK1 Kit provides 2 pieces of PE and one of the reasons was to help me decide on the Eduard PE and you can probably guess my decisionBlushing Blushing

I have shown the Lens Grating PE from MK1 alongside the Trumpeter, they are in different leagues with the Mk1 showing a nice 3D on the louvering and frame (it's on the left in case you can't tellLOL).


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#46 Posted : 01 April 2013 22:13:12

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BigGrin Hi Andy
The one on the left is far superior to the trumpeter and I guess you will be going for the Eduard set aswell
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#47 Posted : 01 April 2013 22:13:45

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court orchard wrote:
So I have been studying the Eduard PDF's for their new PE Issues and it seems there's an lot more that I don't already have.
For example, for the 7 main Searchlights,
Trumpeter give us 6 Plastic parts 2 of them clear for some odd reason and a PE for the lens grating.
MK1 replace the Grating with a much finer one and add the side winding handle.
Eduard of course have the 2 MK1 pieces, but add another 13 PE details to each Searchlight, 4 Grab Handles, 4 Lifting Hitches, the Winding Handle at the rear, a Hatch, 2 pieces for the Pivot Attachment and what looks like some sort of Key.

My Wallet is already sensing what this might mean Crying Crying Blushing Bored

Plus I've just seen thisBlink Blink
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_...p;t=123012&start=120


looking like a loverly set with riffled guns and did you see the anchor winches Drool
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#48 Posted : 01 April 2013 22:16:54

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I guess the kit parts that are clear are to avoid you having to glue lenses in and possibly fogging the lens??
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#49 Posted : 01 April 2013 22:31:25

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arpurchase wrote:
BigGrin Hi Andy
The one on the left is far superior to the trumpeter and I guess you will be going for the Eduard set aswell
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You're right Andy, I've ordered the Eduard PEBlink Blushing
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#50 Posted : 01 April 2013 22:33:16

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jase wrote:
court orchard wrote:
So I have been studying the Eduard PDF's for their new PE Issues and it seems there's an lot more that I don't already have.
For example, for the 7 main Searchlights,
Trumpeter give us 6 Plastic parts 2 of them clear for some odd reason and a PE for the lens grating.
MK1 replace the Grating with a much finer one and add the side winding handle.
Eduard of course have the 2 MK1 pieces, but add another 13 PE details to each Searchlight, 4 Grab Handles, 4 Lifting Hitches, the Winding Handle at the rear, a Hatch, 2 pieces for the Pivot Attachment and what looks like some sort of Key.

My Wallet is already sensing what this might mean Crying Crying Blushing Bored

Plus I've just seen thisBlink Blink
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_...p;t=123012&start=120


looking like a loverly set with riffled guns and did you see the anchor winches Drool


The Pontos stuff looks great, but they've got to be many months away from having any of it readily available.
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#51 Posted : 01 April 2013 22:35:33

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jase wrote:
I guess the kit parts that are clear are to avoid you having to glue lenses in and possibly fogging the lens??


That's a good point Jase, but it still makes no sense to have the bolted back plate clearConfused. Also with the PE any fogging would not be visibleConfused
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#52 Posted : 01 April 2013 23:47:06

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BigGrin Hi Alan
I think I read somewhere that they sometimes make items such as searchlights or head lights out of clear plastic because after painting the outside the clear inside gives a perception of depth like looking into the real thing. The way this is done is to paint the back plate part silver and the sides white on the outside then coat this in grey this can give the depth of perspective, but as you say with the covers this is made a little redundant.
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#53 Posted : 02 April 2013 19:28:29

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arpurchase wrote:
BigGrin Hi Alan
I think I read somewhere that they sometimes make items such as searchlights or head lights out of clear plastic because after painting the outside the clear inside gives a perception of depth like looking into the real thing. The way this is done is to paint the back plate part silver and the sides white on the outside then coat this in grey this can give the depth of perspective, but as you say with the covers this is made a little redundant.
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That's clever, but obviously too clever for meLOL, might try it just to see the effect. Thanks for the infoBigGrin
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#54 Posted : 02 April 2013 20:44:05

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I was thinking of doing a time log on this huge build, like Karl on his Caldercraft Victory, but because of my work commitments, I tend to work in odd bursts of unscheduled time and this would be difficult to monitor realistically.
So instead for a bit of fun, I'm going to do a Part Count, and also I'm quite taken by the idea of adding as many parts as possible to the already huge part list.

So at the moment with some basic Hull work and the 7 Main Searchlights, plus some preliminary work on the Funnel, I have a part count of 134. This will increase to 225 with the additional Eduard Main Searchlight parts.
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#55 Posted : 02 April 2013 22:58:09

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court orchard wrote:
I was thinking of doing a time log on this huge build, like Karl on his Caldercraft Victory, but because of my work commitments, I tend to work in odd bursts of unscheduled time and this would be difficult to monitor realistically.
So instead for a bit of fun, I'm going to do a Part Count, and also I'm quite taken by the idea of adding as many parts as possible to the already huge part list.

So at the moment with some basic Hull work and the 7 Main Searchlights, plus some preliminary work on the Funnel, I have a part count of 134. This will increase to 225 with the additional Eduard Main Searchlight parts.


Thats a noval idea. yo will be in the 4000-5000 by the endHuh Blink

i have a stop watch app on my iphone that i have dedicated to my build diary - suprising where the time goes
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jase wrote:
court orchard wrote:
I was thinking of doing a time log on this huge build, like Karl on his Caldercraft Victory, but because of my work commitments, I tend to work in odd bursts of unscheduled time and this would be difficult to monitor realistically.
So instead for a bit of fun, I'm going to do a Part Count, and also I'm quite taken by the idea of adding as many parts as possible to the already huge part list.

So at the moment with some basic Hull work and the 7 Main Searchlights, plus some preliminary work on the Funnel, I have a part count of 134. This will increase to 225 with the additional Eduard Main Searchlight parts.


Thats a noval idea. yo will be in the 4000-5000 by the endHuh Blink

i have a stop watch app on my iphone that i have dedicated to my build diary - suprising where the time goes


I'm going to order some parts from the German Supplier and Eduard have another 3 sets due out in May so 4K-5K should be an easy targetLOL LOL LOL .
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court orchard wrote:
jase wrote:
court orchard wrote:
I was thinking of doing a time log on this huge build, like Karl on his Caldercraft Victory, but because of my work commitments, I tend to work in odd bursts of unscheduled time and this would be difficult to monitor realistically.
So instead for a bit of fun, I'm going to do a Part Count, and also I'm quite taken by the idea of adding as many parts as possible to the already huge part list.

So at the moment with some basic Hull work and the 7 Main Searchlights, plus some preliminary work on the Funnel, I have a part count of 134. This will increase to 225 with the additional Eduard Main Searchlight parts.


Thats a noval idea. yo will be in the 4000-5000 by the endHuh Blink

i have a stop watch app on my iphone that i have dedicated to my build diary - suprising where the time goes


I'm going to order some parts from the German Supplier and Eduard have another 3 sets due out in May so 4K-5K should be an easy targetLOL LOL LOL .



I have orderd parts from the German supplier also shipped today took 3 weeks from order to shipping. Doors (i want to model some open), emergancy hatches, propella protection kit and one of the very bice brass display name platesDrool still not decided if i am going with walk ways or not for the Catapult. Also WEM are about to start releasing - just like Eduard they are doing small upgrade packs but my guess iss when they are all brought to market they will do all in ones like a big edLove
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have you considerd doing a diorama? here is the Prinze Eugen you just need Hood, POW and the 6 destroyers!!!!

http://www.cornwallmodel...eronaut_prinz_eugen.html
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#59 Posted : 03 April 2013 00:14:44

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[quote=jase]have you considerd doing a diorama? here is the Prinze Eugen you just need Hood, POW and the 6 destroyers!!!!

http://www.cornwallmodel...ronaut_prinz_eugen.html[/quote]

Don't tempt meLOL LOL . I saw a guys Diorama of Pearl Harbour which had taken 30 years and some.
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I've been trying to research the use of Sacrificial Anodes on the Bismarck, clearly they are on the Rudders and the Propeller Support Arms. But, I've come across an obscure reference to there being some on the Hull, near the deflectorsConfused.
Also, on the Imperial War Museum Picture of the Tirpitz Rudder and Prop Shafts, after she turned Turtle, there are clearly Anodes on both sides of both Arms, but it looks like only 2. Therefore I am going to do the same on the Bismarck, as it reasonable to assume the arrangement would be similar, albeit 3. Therefore Opferanoden now on order from Germany.
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