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#161 Posted : 30 June 2014 13:16:55

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Love the chainCool

Looking forward to getting back to this towars the end of the yearCool
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#162 Posted : 02 August 2014 16:45:41

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At last the Final piece in my Bismarck jigsaw is ordered from FTH.

http://pontosmodel.com/html/21001f1.html

This is the infamous Pontos Advanced set which supplements their 'Basic' set, subject of much debate and anticipation. So no excuses not to start my project, well apart from the fact the Ceiling has collapsed and my Neurosurgery this month (word of advice never ever buy a very old house, no matter how tempting and how many architects, structural engineers and specialised builders you pay to restore it and assure you everything is OK, oh and don't get ill)LOL Crying
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#163 Posted : 02 August 2014 23:24:40

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Hope to see you back on this build very very soon Andy and thoughts will be with you that everything goes well for you..... Very best wishes...

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Alan
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#164 Posted : 03 August 2014 08:32:37

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BigGrin Nice to see you back Andy BigGrin Hope you get back building soon all the best m8 BigGrin rgd Martyn
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#165 Posted : 03 August 2014 08:58:55

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BigGrin Hi Andy

Great news on the Pontos etch, I can fully sympathize about your health problems as I too have had my fair share this year being diagnosed with cancer of the left tonsil 5 months ago and then 4 months of chemotherapy and radiation treatment which finished last Friday.
In 12 weeks il get the results after the swelling go's down.
Best of luck with your upcoming op and its funny how your priority's in life change when your faced with something like this, what was important fades to insignificance as you prioritize your life.

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#166 Posted : 03 August 2014 12:27:27

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Well the advanced set certainly looks worth the wait. your Bismarck will outstanding.

good look with lives challenges we all have them from time to time and i hope everything will be ok.

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#168 Posted : 06 September 2014 19:35:20

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Hi,

impressive build so far, all the extra detail is going to give you a excellent model once complete.
Would you be able to give me some guidance on the ships hydrophone sonar array? My model producer has excluded it completely, where on the hull is it located and what area does it cover, do you have a reference or plans for the array?

Ben
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#169 Posted : 06 September 2014 21:21:17

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Hi Ben,
This array or Gruppenhorchgerat is somewhat contentious as there are no pictures of the Bismarck with it in place. This does make sense as the technology was highly classified and any pictures which even hinted as it's prescence would have been censored. However my understanding is that there is evidence that the Prince Eugen (which was captured and used for target practice) was fitted with this new technology and it would seem entirely reasonable that the Bismarck was too, as it wouldn't make sense not to protect and enhance the pride of the Kreigsmarine with all means available.
The original Trumpeter kit has them represented as a regular array of 2 inverted 'U's' and this is probably taken from one of the popular websites http://www.bismarck-class.dk/technicallayout/ghg/ghg.html which has them drawn as such (and this should give you their suspected location), but this is almost certainly incorrect as the system worked by matching frequencies from pairs of detectors tuned to particular frequency bands. These were then angled in different directions so once a beat had been extracted from the background noise some indication of direction could also be determined and also checked with a separate pair, hence as the individual detectors were in close array this would cause an irregular patterning in the array to accommodate the different directions of alignment whilst keeping them as close as possible. I have an actual diagram of a 60 microphone array (but I am not sure of the copyright) and the different microphones are aligned in irregular groupings of pairs of about 6 different frequencies in a general overall 'U' shape. Another reasoning would be that a more regular array would be prone to resonance effects, which would amplify background and local noise drowning out any faint signals from approaching threats.
Fortunately Pontos have seen fit to provide a template for a more realistic array as follows, they also quote, amongst their several sources, the Hans Gally drawings which are held to be the most accurate, but unfortunately virtually unobtainable, so I am also inclined because of this to put some credence to their pattern;
Andy

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#170 Posted : 07 September 2014 10:09:05

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Thanks for your help Andy, thinking about adding this to my build, but I have already painted the hull, however i'm not 100% happy with the finish below the waterline so I might sand this back and add the hydrophone at the same time.

Ben
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