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GilShapley
#161 Posted : 26 July 2017 19:19:53

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Well the move took far longer than I hoped delayed in part by the 12 weeks wait for local searches. Had to put all the modelling gear plus furniture and belongings into storage. Spent months living in a static caravan.

But now I am back on the forum

so to continue with the build

issue no 144

I decided to go with hammocks on both sides. Rather than use the 2mm dowel supplied for the supports I used some 2mm square strips which I rounded off on one side. This left a larger surface to glue onto the beams and it was easier to cut the required slots to support the hammocks.

I had a minor problem with hanging the mess tables as if I followed the build instructions the tables seemed to hang at the wrong angle to the hull. The problem was the table was not under the central beam. I was able to get the result I wanted by using the support beam I had already install for the hammocks. When installing the Hammocks/Tables you will need the recommended needle threader. This is a useful bit of kit for anyone who is building sailing ship models. If you do not have one you can pick up 10 for £1.99 from EBay.

Fitting the second elm tree pump - No problems here

Fitting the mast and mast collars - Fiddly due to lack of space and some adjustment to the collar parts will be required to get a good fit

Fitting the gunners tools
As I had opted for hammocks on both sides I skipped this part

Planking the middle gun deck

Similar to previous decking apart from the area around the mast. The instruction are clear here. I did find that when planking the area around the mast (Page 12, 1 - 10) I needed to complete the last two planks at the centre of the raised deck using some 5 mm wide planking to fill the remaining gap.

Once the decking was completed I stained the deck with oak stain.

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Spal
#162 Posted : 26 July 2017 20:25:12

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Looking great Gil BigGrin good to see you back on here.

Al
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#163 Posted : 26 July 2017 20:47:10

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Nice work, love the colour of the decking.

Graeme
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#164 Posted : 26 July 2017 21:31:44

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Nice work Gil. Looks great.

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Gandale
#165 Posted : 26 July 2017 22:26:25

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Great to see you back with us Gil, great looking update too....Cool Cool

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#166 Posted : 06 August 2017 15:53:59

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Hi Gil,
I have really enjoyed browsing your build. Great work.
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Garth
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Finished!!! HMS Victory,
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#167 Posted : 25 August 2017 11:15:47

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Issue 145

Planking the bulwarks, Lining the gun ports, fitting the mast collars

Similar procedure as for the lower decks. The mast collars are easier on this deck as there is more access

Fitting the mess tables

The only minor problem here was that I did not allow enough of the hooks to extend past the edge of the table which made for a tight fit and some additional bending to get them to fit into the rings.

Deck beams and knees:-

As with previous decks so straight forward. I did make a couple of minor changes.
1) The vertical slot that need to be cut out for the elm tree pump left the beam with a weakness so I added an additional bracket between the fore-and-aft beam and the half beam to give some additional support, painted white. It will not show once the deck has been added but will I hope avoid and unfortunate damage as the build progresses
2) I added two addition supports where the smaller of the gratings will be installed. This gave me a larger support surface to glue on the grating

With the support pillars (Page13) I added the cross pieces to the pillars before gluing them in position. Found this easier.

Issue 146

No hammocks on this deck

Fitting the mess table supports - As with the hammock supports on the lower deck I used some 2 X 2 mm strips and not the dowel provided, gives a larger area for gluing. In order to ensure the table support was vertical I glued on the support rails first and painted them white. Once the paint was dry I lined up the table thread with the support and drilled a small hole in the correct place. Pulled the thread through with my trusty needle threader and glued in position.

Once painted the elm tree pump can be glued in position

Planking the upper deck

Follows a similar procedure as for the lower decks

Once completed can be stained and the bulwarks painted yellow ocre

Next job for me is to fit the knees and add the 12 pounders


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Spal
#168 Posted : 25 August 2017 12:01:45

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Another great update Gil Cool looking really good.

Al
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#169 Posted : 25 August 2017 12:03:57

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Great build, looks excellentBigGrin

Mark
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#170 Posted : 28 September 2017 11:01:51

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Issue 147

Rigging the Guns - I went for the run-in version. These guns are rigged slightly differently to those on the lower deck. When installing any blocks or rigging I always make sure the holes in the blocks are clean, try sorting out a blocked hole once you have attached it to the model Crying

Mast collar is straight forward unlike some of those on the lower decks

The pump head again straight forward

Quarter deck beams - Just make sure you get them the right way round ThumpUp

Deck beam supports - I find it easier to construct these before installing.
Once glued and stained I place them in position and pin them in place with a pin through the deck beam above, pre drill to avoid splitting the beam.

Now the fun bit. The gunners tools

I have only one suggestion here, The instructions call for a 1mm hole to be drilled in the end of the 2mm dowel. After several failed attempts - The dowel split - A change of approach.

1) Wrap several layers of masking tape around the end of the dowel
2) Drill a .5mm pilot hole and then enlarge with a 1mm bit. Cut off the length required and repeat until you have the four ends required for the ramrods

For the sponges I cut some strips of masking tape and wrapped these around the end of the handles. The off white colour looks fine

For the worms just follow the instruction in issue 142

I have also place the buckets and small barrels onto the deck

The tables on the mess deck looked a bit bare so I have made some wooden plates for the tables.
Some of these I have installed but the others seemed a bit on the large size so I will revisit these later

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onto number 148 - Minor problem some parts seem to be missing so I have contacted customer services




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#171 Posted : 28 September 2017 15:30:49

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Lots going on in this build and expertly done.

WTG Cool Cool Cool Cool

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#172 Posted : 28 September 2017 15:34:38

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Lovely work Gil, looks like your enjoying this build Cool
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#173 Posted : 28 September 2017 16:04:52

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More great work from you Gil Cool nearing the end now.

Al
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#174 Posted : 28 September 2017 17:01:25

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lovely job Gil


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#175 Posted : 28 September 2017 19:37:16

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Great work Gil, looking superb.

Graeme
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#176 Posted : 28 September 2017 20:13:42

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Top work Gil and a pleasure to see....Cool Cool

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#177 Posted : 28 September 2017 20:34:39

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BigGrin Very nicely done Gill BigGrin

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#178 Posted : 29 September 2017 07:09:42

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Lovely work Gill. Love

Mark
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#179 Posted : 02 October 2017 14:58:42

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Hi Gil.
Looking fantastic very well done.
Ian Cool BigGrin
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#180 Posted : 24 October 2017 12:08:26

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Hi Gil,
Superb build. Thanks for sharing all your tips and techniques.
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Garth
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