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Zeptrader
#1 Posted : 29 March 2010 21:29:06

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Just thought I'd bring up measuring, apart from a good steel ruler Vernier Calipers is an absolute must, I got mine from Cormwall Model Boats and never looked back, at only £4 you can't go wrong.

http://www.cornwallmodel....uk/acatalog/ga4147.html
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#2 Posted : 29 March 2010 22:18:18

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you highly recommend that product, sorry if i sound stupid what do you use it for apart from the obvious.

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#3 Posted : 29 March 2010 22:28:22

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Well I used it to make the mast's and spars, where it would be hard to use a straight metal rule, in fact most things that are not flat, you can measure inside an item ect
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These are a few pictures I took while re doing the mast for the Del prado Bounty, the partworks supplied dowl of various sizes, over the years they warped a little, so I decided to make my own.
After scanning from the pages of Mckays book and put them into photoshop I made sure the image with the aid of the ruler within the program showed the masts at the correct size (the partworks shows the correct lenghtt of each mast, yard ect)
Once printed out I could start marking and sanding down, the calipers were invaluable as you can see from the images below.











In the last 2 you can see the improvements -
A - Partworks supplied dowl
B - Dowl turned in a make shift lathe
C - Stock used for remake of Masts
D - First end of a yard completed, but needs more work
E - Finished Yard.

Without the calipers I could not have achived this.
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#5 Posted : 29 March 2010 22:53:49

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Vernier Calipers are also useful in identifying different sized pieces of wood from stock. I find it difficult when working in millimetres to identify, for example, a 2mm X 4mm cross-section straight away, particularly when you have quite a collection of wooden pieces like I have with Halifax.

Mike T
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#6 Posted : 29 March 2010 22:56:08

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Have you details of your make shift lathe? I will be getting close to thinking about masts and spars for the first time shortly.

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#7 Posted : 29 March 2010 22:58:23

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Found calipers very useful after managing to mix up my collection of 0.3mm to 2.8mm drill bits!

Mike

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#8 Posted : 29 March 2010 23:01:51

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I tried various methods, some which nearly took my fingers off!
It wasnt a great success but I did manage a few small parts.



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Can't keep up with you tonight!

Really interesting. I to have a Dremel Drill and since Christmas a vertical drilling stand which allows you to lock the drill horizontally, so extension to base to hold dowel etc.

All this and no issues to pay for as yet!! Mad

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#10 Posted : 30 March 2010 00:21:32

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i need to get one of those ....i did have a set but mine were a cheap plastic set...which i have not seen in ages .....so they are either in one of my many tool box/bits boxes....of my rottie cross thought they were a chew toy LOL
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#11 Posted : 30 March 2010 00:35:11

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thanks zeptrader i understand now ill be geting one of them BigGrin

good pics as well cheers.
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#12 Posted : 30 March 2010 00:59:06

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Cursing A couple of weeks ago my local Aldi had digital calipers for £9.99. I almost bought them, but talked myself out of it as, at that time, I did not have a precise use for them. Confused Am I sick now?Crying

However Model Boat Magazine is offering a digital caliper as a gift to new subscribers if anyone is interested.LOL
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#13 Posted : 22 April 2010 16:52:32

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What tools do you use on the make shift lathe in oder to shape the wood?
Follow my build to learn how to make firewood

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#14 Posted : 22 April 2010 17:59:25

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Hi Lads
This is getting very technical do we really have to have all these toolsMellow
The jig idea with the corner brackets is great I am now worried that I will not be good enough for the masks etc.

Thanks everyone for helping me and I am sure that I will be on the forum a lot asking many questions.
It is really good that we can have photos to see what to do.

Pam
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Ps when are the next issues out
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#15 Posted : 22 April 2010 18:06:51

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A couple of mini powertool items for mast/spar tapering.......

http://www.alwayshobbies...Micro-Woodturning-Lathe

http://www.alwayshobbies...he-$4-Mains-Transformer

Or you can use an electric drill held in a bench clamp Blink
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#16 Posted : 22 April 2010 18:36:51

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pamlupo wrote:
Hi Lads
This is getting very technical do we really have to have all these toolsMellow
The jig idea with the corner brackets is great I am now worried that I will not be good enough for the masks etc.

Thanks everyone for helping me and I am sure that I will be on the forum a lot asking many questions.
It is really good that we can have photos to see what to do.

Pam
Love Love Love
Ps when are the next issues out


I know what you mean about "technical"!!LOL I have a basic tool kit and i think it will be fine for this build. Although it would be great to have all these "tech tools", storage, cost and the "do i really need it" factor all come into play!!BigGrin I am sure as i get more experienced at wood builds i will be looking for better tools, but for now, as a novice, i am happy with what i have and plan on enjoying this build and not stressing over a mini lathe LOL ! I like to read and take on board what others are buying and making, and i admire those on this forum who are fabricating there own parts, very clever people, and i hope to be at that level one day, but a am content for now with what i have and my level of skill. And i know that with the help from others on this forum, all of us will be very proud of what we have acheived regardless of our skill level and how "technical" our tools are.BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin Cool
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While tools can make things quicker and easier .. it's not the be all and end all and you wont fail necessarily without them. Just look at some of the bone models the french prisoners of war made in the 1800's.. they did it with very little. Time and patience is the most important factor here so please don't feel that having all the tools will make or break your model.

Jigs n rigs are always handy and often cheap to put together. The lathe is a great example of re"tooling" something, the same can be done with a household drill and I'm sure other methods too. Also the masts are at least a year away ;-) so there is plenty of time there.

Enjoy!

Alex
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Alexhill wrote:
While tools can make things quicker and easier .. it's not the be all and end all and you wont fail necessarily without them. Just look at some of the bone models the french prisoners of war made in the 1800's.. they did it with very little. Time and patience is the most important factor here


Alex has identified the most important requirement which is time. Those French POW's had nothing else to do and could spend all day working on their bone models.

I have a birthday shortly and am seriously considering the Proxxon lathe recommended by Tomick. If I buy I will write you a review based on the blind leading the blind because I have absolutely no experience of wood-turning.

Victory's masts may well be a year or more away but I feel the mast and rigging of Halifax calling me!

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