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Eric Woelfel
#1 Posted : 30 September 2020 16:20:24

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Hi I am new to this Forum and this is my first posting.
I have been working on a 1/90 scale HMS Victory model boat for nearly 20 years. I have searched the Internet for photos on HMS Victory, but have not been able to determine how the second anchor (rear most anchor) is attached or tied up to the ship. Does anyone have a diagram showing how the anchors are tied or held onto the ship? Photos that I see show some ropes and chains around the anchor, but exactly how they attach the ship is still a mystery. I am trying to make an accurate model and there are no instructions for this and the photos are not clear. If some of you modelers know, it would be a great help. Thanks

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#2 Posted : 30 September 2020 16:42:28

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Have a look at issue 114 of the Official Build for the DeAg version, you may find it of assistance... Here is the link....

https://forum.model-spac...aspx?g=posts&t=4270

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#3 Posted : 30 September 2020 21:18:54

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Hi Eric.

Alan's link is spot on, also, if you follow this link:
http://www.jotika-ltd.com/Manuals/Victory_Rig.pdf

You can go to Photos 42 and 43 (page 30) which show both anchors attached on the Caldercraft / Jotika HMS Victory (I've been er, 'borrowing' a lot off their guides on my 1/100 scale Del Prado Victory!)

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First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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#4 Posted : 05 October 2020 02:04:20

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Robin and Alan:
Thanks for the information, but it did not exactly help me with my dilemma. Since I am new at this Forum, I needed to learn some anchor terminology first, and now I can describe what I am looking for. Specifically how the sheet anchor is supported at the stock and shank to the ships railings or divots or outer walls or whatever. I have enough on-line photos of HMS Victory to determine the other attachments for the bower anchor and the throat/shank part of the sheet anchor. If I can figure out how to attach a photo of the sheet anchor on this Forum that would help explain my question. I can't seem to figure out how to attach a photo. Is there any tech support? Anyway thank you very much for your explanation.


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#5 Posted : 05 October 2020 18:26:03

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Hi again Eric!

This securing lark is a very difficult subject to find anything on, on the internet! I haven't got as far as the anchors (or the fore channels) so this is quite a learning curve for me too!
The sheet anchors were basically spares for the Bowers and were stored more or less permanently back on the Fore Channels, my own Del Prado instructions don't even mention the anchors other than showing the metal parts in the kit! Below is the photo from my own diary when I scratch built the Anchor Palm Block. The pointy bits on the anchors (which I always thought were called Flukes were called Palms back in Victory's day which then explains why the Palm Blocks are called that! The anchor palms locate into the slot in the palm block which keeps the bottom end in place with an iron chain around the shaft/arms but where that chain is secured I haven't found out yet!
There were then rope lashings around the shaft/wooden stocks which, according to Anatomy of the Ship: HMS Victory book by John McKay "were lashed to the top of the fore channel, outside of the shrouds". And that's the only description I've got!
As there are iron ring bolts in the outside top of all the channels, I'd assume the anchor is secured or lashed to them.
To post up a photo, simply save your pic as a jpeg around 800x600 pixels in size (much larger and the pics only appear as a download address) and before you post the text look for the "Attach files to this post?" box at bottom left and tick it. After posting the text a box comes up to select your pic file name, select it and then simply 'upload' (its really fast uploading) and it should be on the screen when you click 'Back'
Best of luck!

Robin.
Plymouth57 attached the following image(s):
Anchor Palm Blocks pic.JPG
First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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