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Not Painting - Hints and Tips on finishings for the Victory Options
eoinkm
#1 Posted : 09 June 2010 22:47:15

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Hi all,

Will one of the expert builders who is not painting the HMS Victory be able to give some hints and tips on how to look after and finish the build?
I am a rookie this being my first ever build and need all the help I can get.

Best regards,

Eoin
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#2 Posted : 09 June 2010 23:31:57

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Hi Eoin
Im one who is not painting and really it depends on what you want to see in the finshed ship. For example, when I was building the Bounty (early stages) I found the wood supplied was quite dark, so I opted for beeswax, just to bring out the grain. On the other hand with wood that maybe quite ligth in colour you need to choose a stain, again you can get coloured beeswax or hundreds of shades of stain.

One thing to remmeber is the stain you use will show up very different on diffrent types of wood. Once you have choosed a colour scheme either varnish or wax it.

I wont be waxing any of the victory but will be using danish oil, Ive used his on my deck of the Bounty, it doesnt darked but bring out the wood to good effect (IMHO)

But one thing to remember is to test first, if you can test on the wood you will be using, NOT on a spare bit hanging around.

For my Victory Launch I used some spare wood instead of the kit supplied and stained it, then sanded it back, then another light coat of stain, another light sand, one final coat of stain and leave to dry. This sading bought out the wood grain smllas it was but I think it was quite effective. The only thing left to do is rub lightly some Danish Oil (natural) this will no give the shiney effect beeswax or varish would normally give, it will also pretect and preserve the wood, at least till my grandaughters are old enoght to fight over who will inherit the ship.
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#3 Posted : 11 June 2010 11:26:48

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I am inclined to agree with Zeptrader that applying Danish oil or similar to your build would give it a very pleasing, satin, effect whilst also preserving and feeding the wood. Whilst I am currently intending to (satin) varnish my build, I am currently contemplating the longevity of various modern acrylic varnishes against the traditional application of oils.

As for not painting your model, what experience of modeling do you have? I have taken various warnings about the extra difficulty involved in aiming for a natural finish on board but, given that I do have plenty of background in general modelmaking disciplines, have decided to press ahead (cautiously) and see what I can do.

If you are a complete novice with wood AND wood models, then I would seriously consider painting as an option - at least, if anything goes wrong with your build you can slap a bit of filler about and hide it under some paint (still requiring a degree of finesse to get right). By all means go with a wood finish but be forewarned that every part of the construction will be on view including glue, fingernail imprints and tear-stains (from incidental moments of weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth).

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eoinkm
#4 Posted : 11 June 2010 11:43:49

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Thank you both for your extensive and very informative responses. This is exactly what I wanted and you have performed.
Regardin modelling I am a complete novice, this is my first ever build. I am still debating with myself whether I should paint my build or not, I seem to be changing my mind all the time. I think what I would really like is to have it as close to the original as possible so therefore painting it, however I won't be adding anything extra like both of you have, I am stickng to the instructions provided. This is simply because it is my first build.

The issue I face is also that I have no experience in fine model painting. I gues it's just a matter of practice. Where do you buy your primers, sealants, paints, sandpaper and brushes Capt Stedders?

Thanks again for your help. I can post the ocassional image to show you how I'm getting on.

Eoin
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#5 Posted : 13 June 2010 10:18:13

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I think that it's time to do a proper, in-depth, article on brushes...

The other topics are covered in the brushworks thread, but in brief...

Wet and Dry Abrasive paper: Car accessory shops.

Aerosol Primers: (depending on the task). Car accessory shops - assorted brands.

Games Workshop and Vallejo, both from specialist hobby retailers and direct.

Sanding Sealant:
Any reputable hardware shop (I did try B&Q once but their 'expert staff had never heard of it..)

Brushes: Either Vallejo or Games workshop for 'work' brushes (they are still good quality so worth treating with a degree of care).

Windsor&Newton Series 7 (horribly expensive - but there's nothing like them for doing really fine detail work) available from art shops (not 'The Works')

El Cheapo brands: From 'The Works' - going under the slightly questionable description of 'fine artists brushes' - for applying glue and sanding sealer.



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Mike Turpin
#6 Posted : 13 June 2010 10:40:25

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Has anybody used the 'Admiralty' brushes from Cornwall boats? I'm only asking because I ordered a set last week and they arrived on Thursday. I should have checked back on Capt Stedders posts but was ordering some other bits so dropped them in the order. It did say they were specially supplied for the Admiralty type water based acrylics.

Mike T
eoinkm
#7 Posted : 17 June 2010 00:18:12

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Hi Zeptrader,

where do you buy your danish oil? And what kind of sanding paper do you use to sand i back?

cheers
eoinkm
stevew
#8 Posted : 08 July 2010 20:26:05

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I am in the non-painting boat here (not sure if I intended the pun), so if one applies Danish oil to the launch, how is it best to apply oil to the inside of the launch?

Steve
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#9 Posted : 08 July 2010 21:01:26

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Try using a cotton wool bud to apply the oil.BigGrinCool But do use a good one i.e Johnsons, as others tend to unravel!!! LOL BigGrin
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#10 Posted : 08 July 2010 21:27:07

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Danish Oil can be bought in places like Wickes, B&Q ect and any wood shop.
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#11 Posted : 08 July 2010 23:24:28

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You can get danish oil on Ebay as well
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