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luna
#1 Posted : 17 June 2010 18:33:02

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Hi All

Well the launch did not go well i was wondering is their something out there that i can use to put a skin on the outside of the launch and in perhaps milliput or something?


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#2 Posted : 17 June 2010 19:48:49

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I was wondering the same. My planking looks okay, but there are a couple of areas where a filler needs to go in - any suggestions chaps, or is it simply wood filler?
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#3 Posted : 17 June 2010 20:23:51

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hi amipal
a good filler can be purchased from www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk I ve used it before and it can be sanded down but be careful on the launch as the planks are very thin hope this is helpful
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#4 Posted : 18 June 2010 00:19:00

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It would help if you could post a pic so that we can judge the best course of treatment. Milliput cures into an extremely hard state and it could cause more problems - unless you are very familiar with it and have made it into a paste before, I'd leave well alone.

In the meantime..

Assuming that your launch does not resemble a sieve, a couple of applications of Aliphatic glue can help fill thin gaps between planks.

if you have deep indentations or gaps that are bigger than you would like then go with Yorkieboy's suggestion and get some filler.





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#5 Posted : 18 June 2010 08:53:35

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It's good to see that I am not the only one to admit having problems with the launch. It can be so demoralising to see all the pictures of perfect launches etc on this forum. I think well if they can do it so can I and then become disheartened and depressed when I can't get mine to look anything like others. So even by saying that you are having problems you are in fact helping others.
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Hi luna, What i did was used gunze sanjo mr surfacer.Look at mine on link at bottom.

It is a filler primer paint for models.( a little smelly) you can get different grades of thickness. You can either brush it on or get the spray can version. I used the brush method.

Give the launch a coat of acrylic paint first then wet and dry lightly. Then give it a coat of mr surfacer (i used 1500) but 1000 would be ok. Let it dry for 2 hours then wet and dry paper it with fine grade. Once done you can paint to the correct colour.


http://www.modeldesignco...ruction/_54277/1/Filler

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#7 Posted : 18 June 2010 10:31:42

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Thanx


for all your replies.

Magpie i am going to try your method i think and we will see how that goes, i may end up reordering issue 6 lol. Dedworth dog yes i agree with you it is very depressing to see all the gorgeous launches on here and then to look at mine lol, still this is my first attempt at wooden ship building and i am not going to be put off by the tiny detail work at this stage. i can always reorder and revisit at a later date when i am a bit more confident about what i am doing. I also agree that it is important to post our failures as well as the bits we are doing well, and i am sorry but i would be a little (if not a lot) embarrassed to show my effort in a photo

again thanks all for your help

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#8 Posted : 18 June 2010 15:55:59

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Hi Guys
I'm having as mair of a time with the bow of the launch Cursing
But my question is what is the best primmer to use before paining?
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IF the surface of your model is well prepped, you could simply use some matte White aerosol paint (or primer) from a car accessory store such as Halfords or Motabitz.

It will give a perfect result (on a well prepped surface) and, being white, a couple of coats will mean that you'll only need to paint the yellow Ochre and black bits.

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#10 Posted : 18 June 2010 20:36:39

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Thanks Stedders.
What do you suggest to fill the odd iddy biddy gap fefore spraying?
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If they are really tiny gaps, then try running a little aliphatic resin along them - when it cures, you can gently sand any surplus down (with a fine W&D paper - P400 is ideal - to leave a neat finish).

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#12 Posted : 18 June 2010 21:42:51

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dedworthdog wrote:
It's good to see that I am not the only one to admit having problems with the launch. It can be so demoralising to see all the pictures of perfect launches etc on this forum. I think well if they can do it so can I and then become disheartened and depressed when I can't get mine to look anything like others. So even by saying that you are having problems you are in fact helping others.


I know how you feel mate...I've finished planking my launch today, and I am totally not to happy with my performance, I wouldn't mind, it is not the first time that I've built such a small craft, but nothing seemed to go as planned right from the word go!! I think that I can salvage it, but deep down, I will be permanently reminded of the faults in it, and no doubt, I shall be re-ordering issue 6...Crying
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BigGrin at least you didn't give up like me & turn it into shavings
BigGrin am sure u will get it to your satisfaction
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going for my 2nd attempt over weekend
BigGrin thinking to myself "3rd time lucky"Crying
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#14 Posted : 19 June 2010 00:41:54

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I must confess that I have ordered another copy of issue 6 BigGrin

Got 2 planks on each side of 1st attempt and thought I better order another one just incase LOL


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Blink going by the title of this folder
BigGrin all us who are having bother with the launch can we just give it a tarpaulin cover Cool
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Looking at the picture of Jonny's launch build, perhaps I might suggest that the problem people are having with the launch is trying to bend parallel sided planks around a curved surface. The planks do need to be shaped so they fit comfortably onto the ribs which in turn need to be chamfered just enough to accept the planks.

For those reading this topic and who haven't started planking yet, you might like to look at launch construction

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#17 Posted : 20 June 2010 12:31:26

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[size=8]Hi Guys, I too had problems with the planking which I tried to rectify with wood filler. Have now painted but only have given myself a 'c - could do better'!!!!!!!!!!
This has taught me a lot - not to rush into things being the main one - my ribs were not totally parallel and I didn't shape well. I did soak/bend my planks but then pressed in too much between the ribs and so have dips in. I'm leaving it for now and putting it down to experience but may well have to order in the future. I am finding the expert help of other crew members really helpful but the learning curve is steep and us newbies can not hope to be at the level of those with much more experience I'm here to learn and hope I will something to be proud of when finished - what the hell I'm enjoying it!! LOL LOL Blink
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Hey guys, I feel your pain, and it's esential that you do not compare your efforts with others who have been doing this for a while, I have made so many mistakes during my builds, that on occasions I felt I was getting worse not better, but honestly, you do get better with practice so please dont give up!

Looking at the image, it looks like you may have forgotten to tapper the planks to fit,this is essential to create uniformed curves and allow the planks to fit snugly together as they make their way around the formers, it's easier than you think, it just takes patients, time and careful sanding.
For the BOW of the launch, you need to create a nice curve to be able to fit the plank without over stressing it, to do this you can either purchase an electric plank bender or use the Plank Nipper that came with the free kit when you subscribed, but be very careful not to press too hard as you will cut through the think material, just a really light pressure should do the trick, but I do suggest you purchase some White Maple 0.5 X 4mm strips http://www.cornwallmodel...atalog/white-maple.html to practice with.





I hoe this helps a little, and as I said before, DO NOT GIVE UP!!!
In this image you can see the light score lines that were made with the plank nipper.





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#19 Posted : 20 June 2010 16:40:41

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try this when bending 0.5mm planks hold the plank between fore thinger and thum on your left hand use your thum nail on your right hand draw it across the plank pressing slighty on the right fore finger and watch it bend, donot wet plank do it dry ,more you do it more of a bend
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I would agree with Willie that you can bend the very thin planks between your thumb and finger (as per the launch link above) however I would recommend that you are very careful if you try to do it dry, because the fibres will tend to splinter when you get to the exteme curvature towards the bows. I personally would recommend that you at least moisten the plank when you try to bend it and apply the pressure gradually to get the sharper bends.

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