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#1 Posted : 14 July 2010 20:53:15

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hi shipmates has anybody decided wether there goin to show the open gun decks
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#2 Posted : 14 July 2010 21:18:13

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I would like to do it so the gun deck can be opened or closed just got to figure out a way of doing it.
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#3 Posted : 14 July 2010 22:36:04

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what a fantastic idea i mite do that meself any ideas out there on how to do it?
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#4 Posted : 15 July 2010 00:01:06

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This forum just gets better & betterBigGrin
Having decided to paint the one side of the hull showing the cut out section and hopefully varnish/stain the opposite side if the planking is up to standard we now could have the possibility of a open/close section.I hope the idea is feasible as it sounds very interesting and I look forward to seeing more on this subject later.
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#5 Posted : 15 July 2010 07:39:36

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andylangtree wrote:
I would like to do it so the gun deck can be opened or closed just got to figure out a way of doing it.

Yes, very good idea. You would need to build a support to house the hidden/sunk hinge. Or no hinge and have pull away.
Also a rotating table, maybe powered, would be nice for you.
Mine's going to be on a table. In the corner of the room. About 2ft high.
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i dont know what weapons will be used in ww3 but ww4 will be sticks and stones.
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#6 Posted : 15 July 2010 10:04:46

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I think it would be a good idea, and maybe Admin could speak to the professionals and see if they could add a section to the magazine, to show us what to do so to speak? but it's just an idea
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#7 Posted : 15 July 2010 10:14:32

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Was playing round with the shower enclosure last night as it kept sticking.It's a disabled one so evrything is held closed by magnetic strips,got me to wondering if the same technique could be applied,my knife case has weak strips to hold spare blades & wih some careful trimming they may be able to be adapted to the purpose,what does anyone else think?
I would try a mock up but as a newbie to the hobby I am limited on materials & skill necessary to try this out.....
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One solution was included in the Del Prado Bounty kit which I know some members have made or are, like me, still making.

Del Prado included in the kit a moulded sheet of clear plastic with the same profile as the hole in the side of the ship. The plastic was held in place by cutting tabs in the plastic border which clipped behind the hull edges.

The suggestion was that you could cover the hole with the plastic and still see into the interior without letting the dust in. Alternatively some extra second layer planks (very thin) were supplied which could be stuck on the surface of the plastic to represent the complete wooden side to the hull. Just found the bits in my 'store room' (bottom drawer of chest of drawers!).BigGrin

To use this technique with Victory would require a mould with the profile of the hole in Victory and access to a vacuum moulding set-up. Is there anyone out there who could do this or do we ask Admin to source the plastic sides?Huh

I have to confess that I'm not convinced that I want to show the interior at present, but might be persuaded when others say they are having a go.Confused

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#9 Posted : 15 July 2010 10:31:23

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I've not decided yet. Would like the cut away if someone out comes up with an easy solution for a removable hull dummy piece is found. I guess that's a long way down the line so will have plenty of time to mull over ther idea.Blink Bored Angry
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#10 Posted : 15 July 2010 11:13:03

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Hi Mike, I built the Del Prado version of HMAV Bounty, and yes, the open sided version and the way I went about fitting the removable side was exactly as you described...but as time went by, I began to form a hatred with the idea of an open sided model, my dear wife would back me up on this, that when it came to dusting around the model, no matter how careful, she would accidentally knock the removable side panel off the model. I know that such models deserve a show case, but space is a problem in our household. Anyway, it is up to the modeller which avenue they choose to go down as regarding the two versions of display. My build will not include the open side this time, but I will be adopting the idea of forming a display of figures in front of the completed model each in a stance showing their individual station aboard the Victory.
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Vacuum Moulding Part 2!!

You apparently have a choice, four figure sum for commercial equipment OR make your own with your domestic oven and a Dyson! (plus a few bits of wood and no doubt some greenstuffLOL )

If anybody is interested google vacuum moulding machines and look for the videos and there are a number of You Tube solutions to evaluate BigGrin BigGrin

It's the sort of thing if somebody is keen to have a go they might offer to supply the Victory part for a few pennies similar to the Famous Crest Stamp from Stedders.

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Not sure about the plastic side window. It gives the impression of 'manufactured' to me. The more natural the better I think. Im painting this due to fact its my first ever build of this nature. I not optimistic of my skills yet. My goal is to do it again but varnished its 'my holy grail'.
Surley the deck would be of more concern with regards to dust. However the flat magnet idea sounds like the winner for me.
But hey each to their own.Flapper
i dont know what weapons will be used in ww3 but ww4 will be sticks and stones.
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I like both ideas, but it might be better to construct this instead?

http://www.cornwallmodel...ctory_cross_section.html
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#14 Posted : 16 July 2010 13:44:35

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I have been working on this idea since the begining ...i love kits where you can pop off the lid and see the insides..BigGrin ..i have several ..so i will be working in a way to do the same with the gun decks....and lighting .....using white/yellow L.e.d's as lanterns....but thats further down the line.....for now i'm still trying to get to grips with this %#@$^%$#^...launch..LOL LOL
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snowtiger wrote:
%#@$^%$#^...launch..LOL LOL

I haven't heard it called that before! BigGrin
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amipal wrote:
snowtiger wrote:
%#@$^%$#^...launch..LOL LOL

I haven't heard it called that before! BigGrin

i have..from my own lips about my launch
cheers benny
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My launch almost did launch, right out the window.BigGrin
i dont know what weapons will be used in ww3 but ww4 will be sticks and stones.
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using say extra frames say 18 to 20 cut at lower deck leavel to main deck these pices tack to the corasponding frames when the boat is planked the planks are cut between the frames 18 and 20 lower deck to main when this pice is released it like a type of hatch extra frames holding it ridget
same as on model aircaft engine axsses hatches
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